Guys,
I was reading through one of my older posts when I stumbled across a comment made by JD. He talked about women using shaming language on us, and I responded to him by what I think it revealed about women when they used it. As I reread what I said months ago, I thought it would make a good post on its own. My brilliant insight awed even me! So, the next time a woman shouts you down for voicing our very real, very legitimate complaints, here's what it reveals about the woman. Here's my response to JD below...
You bring up an interesting point, JD, and I'd like to expand on it. It's a point I don't make often enough on here: what shaming language REALLY reveals about the woman using it. When a woman throws a tantrum, and accuses us of not 'manning up', of not 'doing our duty', it's very, very revealing, my friend. It's more revealing than the woman realizes. How so? Give me a few minutes, and I'll explain...
One, it says that women are not at all empathetic, contrary to what the MSM has told us; women are not the great empaths of the universe. The very fact that they won't even acknowledge, let alone LISTEN, to our very real, very substantive complaints is prima facie evidence of this. They just blithely dismiss what we have to say without even listening to it! That should lead any guy with two or more brain cells knocking togethter to ask this one, simple question: if she won't listen to me, my thoughts, and my complaints now prior to a relationship with her, then why should I believe that she'd listen to me after I say "I do"?
Two, when women dismiss our complaints, it says that they don't see us as human beings. They don't see us as having thoughts, feelings, dreams, desires, and needs that matter. It's all about THEM-all about them! They'll crow incessantly about having THEIR needs met, but they won't even take two seconds to listen to ours! They damn sure won't attempt to MEET our needs! That prompts me to ask this: why would I want to be with someone who doesn't view me as a human being? Why do I want to be with someone who cannot and will not see that I have needs, thoughts, desires, and dreams of my own? Why would I want to be with someone who won't lift a finger to meet the same? Why would I want to do that, huh? I can't think of a good reason to...
Three, when a woman hurls shaming language at us, it says that her needs, her thoughts, her desires, and her dreams matter more than ours. Did you ever think about that? In effect, women are saying, "How DARE you not give us what we want-how dare you!" When we try to tell them that there's nothing in it for us to marry them, they try to shout us down with the shaming language; they don't even have the decency to LISTEN to us and what we have to say! Did you ever think about that, JD? Did you ever think that, when a woman hurls her insults at us, she is in effect saying that our needs, our wants, our desires, and our dreams as men do not matter? Isn't she basically saying that, as long as she gets what she wants, then the hell with us?! I think so. Why would I want to marry someone who won't even acknowledge the fact that I'm a human being? Why would I want to be with someone who won't even acknowledge my humanity? Why would I want to be with someone who won't even acknowledge, let alone meet, my needs and desires? Why would I want to be with someone who's going to browbeat me about meeting her wants, but totally ignore mine?! If she wants money for her shoe collection, why that's all right; but, if a man wants to buy the motorcycle he always wanted, then that's bad. How dare I get something that I want! How dare I pursue my dreams! His mission in life is to serve her, to be her slave. Why would I sign up for that? Women's attitudes towards us really disgusts me! I think it's fair to say that the vast majority of them hate us as men. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
No my man, when a woman hurls shaming language at us, she's revealing a lot about herself; she's revealing things she doesn't intend to, but she's revealing a lot nonetheless. She's revealing that she couldn't be bothered to consider that we're human beings; nor can she be bothered to consider that, as such, we have thoughts, desires, needs, and dreams of our own. She can't be bothered with even thinking about them, let along trying to satisfy them. Why, it would be a crime against The Sisterhood to be nice to her man! She can't do that, man! Why, she'll be promoting patriarchal oppression if she does that! When a woman hurls shaming language at us, she's in effect saying that we're subhuman turds who do not matter. Since that's the case, I'm better off without a woman in my life. Women have no idea how counterproductive shaming language is...
MarkyMark
I was reading through one of my older posts when I stumbled across a comment made by JD. He talked about women using shaming language on us, and I responded to him by what I think it revealed about women when they used it. As I reread what I said months ago, I thought it would make a good post on its own. My brilliant insight awed even me! So, the next time a woman shouts you down for voicing our very real, very legitimate complaints, here's what it reveals about the woman. Here's my response to JD below...
You bring up an interesting point, JD, and I'd like to expand on it. It's a point I don't make often enough on here: what shaming language REALLY reveals about the woman using it. When a woman throws a tantrum, and accuses us of not 'manning up', of not 'doing our duty', it's very, very revealing, my friend. It's more revealing than the woman realizes. How so? Give me a few minutes, and I'll explain...
One, it says that women are not at all empathetic, contrary to what the MSM has told us; women are not the great empaths of the universe. The very fact that they won't even acknowledge, let alone LISTEN, to our very real, very substantive complaints is prima facie evidence of this. They just blithely dismiss what we have to say without even listening to it! That should lead any guy with two or more brain cells knocking togethter to ask this one, simple question: if she won't listen to me, my thoughts, and my complaints now prior to a relationship with her, then why should I believe that she'd listen to me after I say "I do"?
Two, when women dismiss our complaints, it says that they don't see us as human beings. They don't see us as having thoughts, feelings, dreams, desires, and needs that matter. It's all about THEM-all about them! They'll crow incessantly about having THEIR needs met, but they won't even take two seconds to listen to ours! They damn sure won't attempt to MEET our needs! That prompts me to ask this: why would I want to be with someone who doesn't view me as a human being? Why do I want to be with someone who cannot and will not see that I have needs, thoughts, desires, and dreams of my own? Why would I want to be with someone who won't lift a finger to meet the same? Why would I want to do that, huh? I can't think of a good reason to...
Three, when a woman hurls shaming language at us, it says that her needs, her thoughts, her desires, and her dreams matter more than ours. Did you ever think about that? In effect, women are saying, "How DARE you not give us what we want-how dare you!" When we try to tell them that there's nothing in it for us to marry them, they try to shout us down with the shaming language; they don't even have the decency to LISTEN to us and what we have to say! Did you ever think about that, JD? Did you ever think that, when a woman hurls her insults at us, she is in effect saying that our needs, our wants, our desires, and our dreams as men do not matter? Isn't she basically saying that, as long as she gets what she wants, then the hell with us?! I think so. Why would I want to marry someone who won't even acknowledge the fact that I'm a human being? Why would I want to be with someone who won't even acknowledge my humanity? Why would I want to be with someone who won't even acknowledge, let alone meet, my needs and desires? Why would I want to be with someone who's going to browbeat me about meeting her wants, but totally ignore mine?! If she wants money for her shoe collection, why that's all right; but, if a man wants to buy the motorcycle he always wanted, then that's bad. How dare I get something that I want! How dare I pursue my dreams! His mission in life is to serve her, to be her slave. Why would I sign up for that? Women's attitudes towards us really disgusts me! I think it's fair to say that the vast majority of them hate us as men. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
No my man, when a woman hurls shaming language at us, she's revealing a lot about herself; she's revealing things she doesn't intend to, but she's revealing a lot nonetheless. She's revealing that she couldn't be bothered to consider that we're human beings; nor can she be bothered to consider that, as such, we have thoughts, desires, needs, and dreams of our own. She can't be bothered with even thinking about them, let along trying to satisfy them. Why, it would be a crime against The Sisterhood to be nice to her man! She can't do that, man! Why, she'll be promoting patriarchal oppression if she does that! When a woman hurls shaming language at us, she's in effect saying that we're subhuman turds who do not matter. Since that's the case, I'm better off without a woman in my life. Women have no idea how counterproductive shaming language is...
MarkyMark
15 comments:
Right on!
The more shaming language you hear from a woman ...
she reveals how truly selfish she really is.
Because if women need men like a fish need a bicycle,
why does she want to have to deal with us?
Unless she figures that she can get what she wants without having to reciprocate (the sign of a psycho/socio-path).
I'm glad they've pretty much ignored me my whole life, ha.
I have yet to meet a woman capable of empathizing with a man.
And, "How dare you not give us (should be ME) what we (should be I) want".
Sounds like a spoiled brat throwing a tantrum now doesn't it?
"I have yet to meet a woman capable of empathizing with a man.
And, "How dare you not give us (should be ME) what we (should be I) want".
Sounds like a spoiled brat throwing a tantrum now doesn't it?"
Precisely...we're getting wise to their game which is exactly why they are getting so upset in the first place.
Yawn. Haven't we done her already?
@17.11-yes I think you're in good company here with men who have had the same experience lol
I've never got any shaming language from females.
Just my mother.
Women typically are somewhere between a child and a grown man. They are highly adolescent. Does it not suprise you that as women have come to dominate our society it has become childish?
That's the training mommy gives her sons:to be a good servant for women.
That's why shoving fathers out of the picture works so well, so far.
Exactly. Even guys who aren't MRAs and are like "bah, who cares" get converted more to my side when I show them how little women give a fuck about their thoughts and feelings and reasons.
For example, in my country (just like in any) you have these huge women's forums where women have the MASSIVE threads where they whine endlessly about why men aren't asking them out anymore, approaching them etc etc (like 100 page thread calling men dumb, cowardly, stupid, where have the men gone, bla bla bla).
And a few men actually stumbled on the page and explained WHY they're not asking women out, why they're not pursuing women etc (explaining why men no longer have enough incentive and reward/punishment ratio is too small).
Do you think a SINGLE woman had any empathy? These men actually tried for months on end to explain their male feelings with absolutely NO understanding on the women's side.
The women's response always amounted to "yeah, but you're a man, and you owe a date, marriage, whatever"... There is literally ZERO ability to register the man's feelings or points.
It always come back to "yeah, but I want x, therefore you need to give me x". "I don't give a fuck is giving me x makes you incernerate and explode in 560 pieces, you just need to give me x, because I'm a woman, and you're a man"
That is a rather interesting point to put it in. But, in some cases, the same could be said about men. But that a whole other argument on it's own.
Brandi
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"That is a rather interesting point to put it in. But, in some cases, the same could be said about men. But that a whole other argument on it's own."
On the contrary, that is what the mass media is all about. The issue is rarely with women, only with men. This is the main reason WHY men are getting so upset these days. When the issue clearly is no longer with men any longer, women refuse to accept their part of the problem.
Whether you want to see it or not Brandi, you did EXACTLY what Alek Novy stated. Men are tired of being told that 'It's your fault.' Hey, we've effed up and we're big enough to admit it.
The anger arises when you blame us still or worse yet "It's your fault too." Now is the time for women to own their 50% of the issues, and if you or others decided not too, don't be surprised when you see the backs of our heads walking away from you
Very insightful post - thank you!
I hate to break it to you, but extensive, over-thought diatribes about girls who complain about toilet seats is actually slightly more obnoxious than the handful of ladies who accidentally splash their bottoms with potty-water and whine about it.
And, as a disgusting, childish woman at the headwaters of the Fempire, I don't mind telling you that we've talked it over in our meetings and you most certainly won't be considered for breeding when the Matriarchy finally assumes control. Sorry, man. We need sperm-bags and purse-holders to keep our bathrooms neat and orderly.
I think that over-analyzing and composing a diatribe against girls who complain about the toilet seat being left up is far more obnoxious than the handful of ladies who actually whine when they accidentally splash their bottoms with potty-water.
And, as a chairman of the International Fempire Conspiracy, I can tell you that your blog has come up in our secret meetings, and, Holy Moley, were our panties bunched! Without you MRAs educating the Sheeple about our tiny woman brains and cold, black hearts, we would have already assumed complete control.
This goes without saying, but, I'm sorry to inform you that when the Matriarchy finally rises, you will not be considered for breeding. It isn't personal, though. It's just that we need you Sperm-Bags and Purse-Holders to keep our bathrooms neat and clean. You know how messy us girls get!
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