21 June 2013

An Opinion of an Old Turd, by Christopher in OR


Though many of us in the blogosphere have encouraged Christopher in OR to start his own blog, he hasn't as of yet.  However, he's done the next, best thing: post his thoughts on Happy Bachelors.  This is a topic he started.  I thought my readers would enjoy it, so here it is...



(And I am assuming you ARE gentlemen.) I would like to take a moment to offer an opinion based upon my forty-nine long years of blessed bachelorhood.

I realize that 49 sounds like a lot of years. Maybe it is. Sometimes it even surprises me that I've lived this long. It doesn't seem excessively long to me-not really. But I can understand that, to someone who is in his twenties, I probably seem genuinely old. Possibly you think that such an old fossil is so removed from your generation, that he can't have any relevant advice to offer you on dating and marriage. Well, you'd be wrong.

I would like to touch on an issue that is a constant source of friction even for bachelors. The issue is this: are there any truly decent women left?

My answer would be this: It makes no difference.

What do I mean? Even if you find this elusive, virginal woman you have been dreaming about in the back of your mind, she ain't gonna marry YOU. The good ones, if they even exist, are so rare they are going to be snapped up rapidly by successful, professional men with a very high income. These men know they have economic power you probably don't have, and they wield it accordingly. They get what they want-for the moment.

This rare woman, if she exists, knows her value, and sets her price accordingly high. Why not? Why should the grocery store start selling lobster for a nickel a ton if they can get twenty bucks a pound? Does that anger you? Tough. Supply and demand. Simple economics. Get used to it.

So, forget about finding such a woman. Unless you win the lottery, or are prepared to spend eight years in medical school.

So what's left?

Sluts, skanks, whores, tramps, pigs, junkies, drunks, fat slobs, white-trash, black-trash, degenerates, bisexuals, reformed lesbians, religious maniacs, frigid nuts, man-haters, trans-gender freaks, green-card-hunters, maniacs, bi-polar, borderline-personality-disorder, schizo's, STD-riddled, women-in-poor-health and other assorted undesirables.

So, what in the heck is the point of this old fart?

My point is two-fold.

Firstly, and I've stressed this initially, you are NOT going to find and marry a nice, sweet, loyal, faithful girl that will stand by your side through all of life's troubles.

It is absolutely NOT going to happen in your lifetime, so forget about it.

My second point is this:

In the long run, it doesn't matter.

But, whatever do I mean? It's simple, really, and the point has been stressed over and over. Yet, repetitive learning is often the most effective, so I'll repeat what has so often been stated.

A woman's physical beauty, her charm, all fade so quickly. This is something a man simply can't fully grasp when he is in his twenties. The allure of the pussy is just too strong, even if a man isn't getting any. Nature endows women, as Schopenhauer said so long ago, with a super-abundance of beauty for a short time. But, that's it. After that, what do you have? A braying jack-ass that serves no purpose? A fat woman that bears a striking resemblance to Jabba The Hut? A religious maniac that will view you with contempt because a "good Christian man" would never expect his wife to do "THAT"? A wife that say "Don't touch me!"? A woman that didn't bother to tell you about her monthly Herpes outbreaks, and now expects you to pony up the $500 a month she needs to buy Valtrex?

That's what this commercial, a Montavit water advertisement, features as its theme.  I did some brilliant analysis of that ad too; it was some of my BEST work ever, and it only received a measly 15 comments!  Seriously though, in a mere 30 seconds, we get the message that the young, desirable coquette you see now will turn into something decidedly less appealing in a few short years should you be dumb enough to marry her...

If you are young, please believe me when I tell you this: No matter how bad your experiences with women have been, and I'm sure they've been mostly bad, (otherwise you wouldn't be here), yet you still have no idea how bad life can and probably will be as a woman ages-if you're married to her.

I'm in a unique position. I'm not old, not really, but I'm not young, either. I'm sitting on the pinnacle of my my life about to slide towards raisinhood. I am watching all of the women I know that are even twenty years younger than I am turn into sour, ugly, fat prunes. I'm still healthy, and in good shape. There are no bags under my eyes, I can still bench a respectable amount, I don't get up to pee ten times a night, and I can walk ten miles without being the least bit winded.

But the women; oh, lord, the women. How they have aged, and aged badly. The female body is the ultimate in bait-and-switch. It falls apart so rapidly. Once the youthful glow disappears, you will be left with a foul, smelly walking Picasso. That tight skin that is stretched over a woman's body will soon loosen up, and you will see the horrid beast that has always been lurking underneath. And it's an ugly sight to behold.

When I first really, and truly started watching the women I know fall to pieces, I could hardly believe what I saw. I had been warned by my parents that women age poorly, but to actually watch women grow ugly and putrid was unsettling to me. It was like watching a plane crash-horrifying, yet I couldn't turn away. It was mesmerizing.

Every year that passes, these same women reach new lows of physical repugnance. Just when you think they can't get uglier, or wrinklier, then another wrinkle manages to appear, the tits sag even further, and she achieves a new low in appearance.

As the Sex Restrainer put it so well, try and imagine lying in bed next to an old woman. Forget all of the romantic crap about "growing old together". It's just so much nonsense. An aging women is a horrible sight, especially if you have to snuggle up to it at night. As Fred Sanford put it, "There ain't nothin' uglier than an old white woman."

Most of you youngsters have little idea of how bad it can be to live with an ugly, menopausal woman. And yes, the looks really take a furiously-fast nosedive at the exact time her sanity disappears in menopause. You will be living with an ugly troll with the temper of Satan himself. Twenty-four/seven. It will be never ending insanity and fighting.

So, yes, the wealthy man wins in the short run. He gets the attractive woman, although the odds are against him finding a decent woman that won't divorce him. He isn't immune to divorce; in fact, being rich makes him a bigger target.

But, the rest of us win in the long run. At 49, I neither need nor want a woman, regardless of how attractive she might be. This has been the case for about twenty years, ever since my sex drive kind of shriveled up. (Bad analogy)

So, be patient. Your lust will pass. To make it easier, leave the women strictly alone. Don't tempt yourself. Don't torture yourself. View the woman as a poisonous flower to be admired from a distance.

Stay single and you, too, can spend you time and money as you see fit when you reach your forties, and believe me, it will come sooner than you can imagine.

You might ask me, "Is it worth it? Staying single?"

Oh, yeah. You have no idea. ;D

Christopher in Oregon


Until next time...



CS said...

Great post! The voice of sanity.

Just Saying said...

"The female body is the ultimate in bait-and-switch"

Amen to that... This is why I have been dating 18-25 yr olds since I was 18 - I'm now 50 and still restrict myself to this bracket. They are young enough to f**k like rabbits, and still have that abundant beauty you speak of, but haven't started looking to "settle down" - if they did, they certainly wouldn't want someone 30+ years older than they are.

They only want fun, and as long as they think you can give them something, their legs will magically open for your enjoyment.

But never mistake a moments enjoyment as being worth more than a moment... Next week, or next year - she will start showing the effects of a hard life, so enjoy her youth and get another one. Never forget, a woman is always replaceable - you aren't.

Crimson Viceroy said...

Mark, I very much hope this man is right about the drive lowering to the point where it is no longer a problem for men. I can't tell you how annoying this crap is. It's like a damn itch that just won't go away. I sure as hell hope it does so I can live my life normally.

Anonymous said...

I did some brilliant analysis of that ad too; it was some of my BEST work ever

It was a good analysis, but actually all your posts are pretty good.

The problem with having a consistently high quality level is that the people who can appreciate it don't have a lot that they can add, so they don't comment.

The PUA attitude is excellent for bloggers, because PUAs are extroverted validation addicts. Every time a PUA posts some advertisement for promiscuous sex, he gets a bunch of comments from sex addicts.

Posting wise words of philosophy limits your audience to those few who can appreciate wisdom, so you get less validtion and fewer comments.

Nonetheless wisdom is worth the effort. It is better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a swine satisfied.

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Anonymous said...

@Viceroy-he's an odd case because he said he lost it 20 years ago at 29 and that's really too young to be normal.So barring any medical problem he likely just didn't have any success with females and just gave up. Many times when men lead these celibate lives their testosterone levels go down. As they say,'use it or lose it'

Take The Red Pill said...

Just Saying: "...They only want fun, and as long as they think you can give them something, their legs will magically open for your enjoyment."

Just beware of gold-diggers, drug addicts, criminals, the mentally diseased, the liars and false accusers, and the STD/STI-infected.

More and more Modern Womyn are increasingly making themselves more trouble than what they're worth...which isn't really much.

Anonymous said...

1. Mark Flowers is a true dedicated Christian but a non denominational and non church going Christian, a praying man upon his knees and he gives all credit to his survival to a personal relationship with Jesus Christ as his savoir and protector of him and his loved ones. Mark has to continually break all curses in Jesus Christ’s name, sent by witch craft and the Satanic agenda.

2. Mark Flowers is a fighter, a man that will never bow to any evil corruption, to DEATH.

3. Mark Flowers has had the fatherhood of his children stolen by the masons / system / The Australian Government.

4. Mark Flowers is a survivor of more than a decade of intense murderous Freemasonry Gang Stalking {a term he coined} and raised in the Federal Magistrates Court Parramatter Sydney Australia in 2009 & 2010 whilst defending his rights to father his children.

5. Mark Flowers has had so many attempts on his life in the process of Freemasonry gangstalking that they are too numerous to list, most have been whilst driving in road traffic accident setups by gangstalkers . But all manner of threats have come against Mark Flowers, One time a sour mason wielding a hammer at Mark’s head got a lesson in respect and kicked off Mark’s property. The police always fail to follow such death threats against Mark Flowers.

6. Mark Flowers has self-represented in some 60 appearances in the Federal Magistrates Court, the District Court and the Supreme Court in Australia and all with nil formal education, in fact Mark left school at 14 years and first job was in a lumber yard.

7. Mark Flowers is a Father first, and a former children’s safety film producer, but the dogs of gangstalking were released on him for doing so. Mark has been fighting ever since and will never give in, as the eternity in spirit and fear of God through Christ Jesus motivates him to be fearless against evil.

If I fall in this good fight it will be into the arms of my saviour Jesus Christ.

Brother Mark


Dr. Illusion said...

Any young guys reading this bitter tripe....please don't listen. You should definitely cover your ass and keep your best interests at heart, but avoiding women entirely? Down that path lies madness.

Consider the source. This guy admits to losing his sex drive at 30. That's not natural. This person clearly always suffered from low T and probably struck out a lot.

Don't get married. Cover your ass. But go smash some pussy. Women aren't as bad as he is trying to make them out. I'm 27, I have sex every day and I cannot imagine what this guys life must be like, but it sounds like hell to me.

Outcast Superstar said...

Christopher In Oregon,

If you are out their come by and say hi on Bachelors Forum, we would love to hear from you.

Also, I have posted some of your writings on the MGTOW Forums as well. The members on MGTOW Forums love your writings as well!

Anonymous said...

I have followed Chris's writings for a long time. His best writings are those which describe him on his motorcycle in the mountains. But, he does write well on the risks of women.

However, since he has openly stated it in the past, let me tell you why he gave up on women. First, the women in his family warned him about women. I can't remember, but think it included his own mother. And, over the years, he found the warnings to coincide with the reality he sees for himself.

And, his first near sexual experience involved a very filthy woman who exuded a terrible vaginal odor. It was bad enough to gag a maggot, as my brother used to say. With no other experience to go on, he concluded all vagina's smell like that. And, wanted nothing more to do with them.

Chris and I have not always seen eye to eye. But, I do not find his decision making process to be inappropriate for himself. As far as I can tell he does have a good single life.

Most attacks on him are just more of the same old, men being other men's worst enemies, no matter what an individual chooses to do with his life.

Anonymous age 71

MarkyMark said...


If you get a chance, could you e-mail me? I have an expat question for you.


Anonymous said...

@71-Nobody was attacking him but he did seem to be very extreme. Well, I guess that you explained it. If that's what happened then his first attempt at sex may have been a traumatic experience but I'm still not convinced that that and his mother telling him to avoid females made him lose his sex drive at a young age. And btw, over the past 40 years I had sex with quite a few women and have never once had one stink like that. Perhaps this is where he gets the idea that all females are diseased.

Anonymous said...

Any young guys reading this bitter tripe....please don't listen. You should definitely cover your ass and keep your best interests at heart, but avoiding women entirely? Down that path lies madness.


Avoiding women entirely is fine and dandy if you have priorities for your life other than orgasms.

Women can give you orgasms. Some women can even give you companionship - but that's rare.

There's much more to life than sex. You can cut out sex, masturbation, porn, and still have a very full life, with many adventures and accomplishments.

handbanana said...

whenever anyone mentions the effect of "the wall" I imagine those videos of rockets fired along guided rails into those giant slabs of concrete.

Anonymous said...

Looks like the old turd hit the wall early

Anonymous said...

People are all different. Those of you who criticized him, while pretending your weren't, assume that sex is absolutely basic to all men, and therefor when a man chooses to withdraw, you wonder where he went wrong.

Though even at 71 with a 71 year old wife, I still have sex. And, I would not be content without it.

But, as I said people are different. Chris does not see sex as a mandatory thing. And, others have reported that when one avoids sex, it is not long before the sex drive is completely gone.

My best friend in the US was a real scalawag when he was young. At age 11, he was raped by an adult women. He was not traumatized, In fact, for the next 40 years his every waking thought was where to get his next tail. I don't think he could even give an estimate to the nearest hundred how many women he coupled with over that 40 years.

When he finally woke up, he completely gave it up, and it wasn't long before he totally lost all sex drive. Many men have reported this.

E-mail on the way, MM.

Anonymous age 71

Mrs. Anna T said...

Mark, this isn't related to the post topic, so don't feel obligated to publish it.

I was just wondering whether you know the book "Sheila Levine Is Dead And Living In New York". It's supposed to be funny, but actually it's very heartbreaking. It's about a young woman who wants nothing more than to get married, but does all the wrong things on the way. It was written in the 70's but is highly relevant today.

Anonymous said...

When he finally woke up, he completely gave it up, and it wasn't long before he totally lost all sex drive. Many men have reported this.

Maybe the fact that he was in his 50's had something to do with it lol

Not 29 like Chris

Anonymous said...

Sex isnt a drive, its an addiction

If sex was a drive, men wouldnt get addicted to porn ...

Men who no longer want to bang chicks, are lucky

They're no longer addicted to sex

A vagina is a cesspit, its something you want to avoid getting addicted to ...

All vaginas are rank, putrefying orifices, theyre not healthy or hygenic ...

The biggest con is the health of a vagina ...

Theres no such thing as a healthy vagina ...

A womans vagina is rank & filled with dead microbacteria & parasites

Plus a womans vagina has shit dripping into it constantly, as her vagina is right underneath her shitter ...

Anonymous said...

Max-you're sounding a bit nutty now.

And sex is not defined as an addiction anymore than eating is.I know it's common to call almost anything an addiction these days but it just isn't so.
Medically an addiction would only apply to a substance, other than food or water, where after taking it a number of times you have an uncontrollable compulsion to keep taking it.A strong desire to do something is not an addiction, it must be uncontrollable.A person may have a physical dependence on morphine where if he stops he'll become ill but even this may not be an addiction (although it generally is)Some drugs used for hypertension cause a physical dependence and you will have a reaction if you stop suddenly but it's not really an addiction because there's no compulsion to take them.
You really can't talk about sex as an addiction since it's natural and normal and it's impossible to OD on since your body has ways of stopping you if you have too much.A morphine addict can keep taking more and more without ill effect due to tolerance.

rmaxGenactivePUA said...


Do something about the above troll on your site


Anonymous said...

A vagina is a cesspit, its something you want to avoid getting addicted to ...

All vaginas are rank, putrefying orifices, theyre not healthy or hygenic ...

If it were that bad no one would go near it let alone get addicted to it lol
So I guess you're still a virgin then like Chris

SN said...

Once you see women as they
are...sex is never the same
or desirable. I DO find all
the shaming language intersting.
Must be female trolls showing
up...shaming is what they do 8-)