04 July 2012

She's Not the Little Girl I Once Knew...

Guys,

We had an estate auction late last month, after which we listed my late mother's house.  Now that this is done, my life will start returning to normal; that means you can expect some posting from me now.  While wrapping up my mother's affairs during the past weeks, I caught up with some people from my old neighborhood.  One of these is a woman I knew when we were both teenagers.  As the old Beach Boys' song goes, she's NOT the little girl I once knew...

A few weeks ago, a woman stopped while walking her dog and chatted up my brother and me.  We were taking a break from cleaning out Ma's house, and we were hanging out in the front yard.  Rose, the old woman in question, had just recently gotten to know my mother before her death.  She expressed her condolences, of course.  Then, she said that she was scared because she's only a few years younger than my mother was.  As the conversation progressed, she pointed to a nearby house and told us that she lived there.  In response, I said that that was Toni X's (not her real name, obviously) old house.  The woman then said that Toni X was her daughter, and that her daughter was still living there.  I was like wow!  Are you kidding me?  Toni is still here?!

Back in the day, Toni was a cute gal.  She wasn't hot, but she was definitely cute; I would have ratee her as a solid 6.5.  She was about 5'5" (165cm) tall, weighed about 100-110# (45-50kg), had dark, curly, shoulder length hair, and a nice smile.  We'd say 'hi' to one another in passing, usually while I was walking my dog.  Toni would be a bit flirty with me back then; I remembered how, she'd playfully tap me on the shoulder or my arm as she said hello to me with that cute smile of hers.  That said, I was too shy to do anything about it in response.  As the years went by, I would occasionally think of Toni; I wondered what had become of her; and, of course, I wondered 'what if'?   What would have happened if I'd responded in a more positive way?  Would we have had a relationship of any sort?  If so, what would it have been like?

Returning to the present, as I was talking to Toni's mother out in front of my mother's old house, I asked about how Toni was, that sort of thing.  Toni's mother then said that I could stop by and see Toni if I liked, and I took her up on the invitation.  I said that I'd stop by before I left the next morning, which was a Sunday.

Sunday morning came, and I was curious about how things with Toni would go.  What did she look like now?  What had she done with her life?  What was she, as a person, like now?  I walked a hundred yards or so up the street to Toni's house, and I knocked on the door.  Her step father answered the door (Toni's real dad had died years before), and he called out to her before asking me in.  As soon as I got inside, Toni came up to the living room area.

She was no longer the cute, petite, perky girl I remembered from my youth.  In fact, she bore little or no resemblance to the girl I remembered; though she was still thin (near her teenage weight), she was different in every other respect.  Though I knew, intellectually speaking, that she would no longer be the young girl I remembered, I couldn't help but think of her in that way; after all, that's how I'd known her.  I knew in my head that she was 48 or so, but my eyes weren't prepared for the sight that greeted them.  While her hair was still dark, it was no longer shiny and curly; it was a flat, faded brunette color, and it was straight.  Her face had lost its youthful glow long ago.  In fact, if I hadn't known it was Toni X from the old neighborhood, I would not have recognized her had I passed her on the street!  I hate to say it, but Toni had become ugly since I'd known her when I was a teenager.

Her personality had also changed during the years.  Back when I knew Toni, she was friendly, open, outgoing, and a bit flirty; she had that youthful innocence that makes young girls and young women appealing.  Unfortunately, she no longer had that.  Her voice had changed too; it was more gravelly or something.  Both her countenance and her skin were hard; it was evident that her life hadn't been easy, and boy, did it show.  For me, that was the biggest and saddest change.

When I knew Toni, she was friendly, cheerful, and outgoing.  She had a sweet voice and smile.  She was cute and perky.  Now, she's more or less the opposite of all those things.  Her voice is coarse and gravelly now.  Her smile, while still there, is flat; it's no longer bright and cheerful.  She's DEFINITELY not cute anymore; man, she got UGLY!  Chris in Oregon always said that when women get older, they get ugly-how true it is.

What's even more bizarre is that Toni seems to think she still 'has it'!  I got the house number and called her a few times when I thought about her in passing over the past two months.  She never called me back.  She never gave me her cell phone number-not that I wanted it.  I was like, really?!  Toni cannot and does not get much in the way of male attention these days, yet she blew me off like she was a 10 or something.  Toni, my dear, you never were a 10, even back in the day.  Nowadays, you DEFINITELY are not; you're anything but!

Even if she were still hot, it would be hard to have a relationship with her, because she's so far away from where I live now.  Also, because my mom is dead, I don't have a reason to visit the old neighborhood anymore.  Because my mom lived down towards the shore, getting to her place in the summer time is a royal PITA; if I didn't have a reason to go down there, I wouldn't go.  I like the ocean and all, but not enough to sit in traffic for freaking hours!  I just thought it would be nice to have a female acquaintance to talk to, nothing more.

In that vein, I remember Chris in Oregon telling me (was it in a comment or e-mail?  I can't remember) how he'd thought about three cute girls from his youth.  He then went on to say that it hit him that they weren't cute teeny boppers anymore; they too were 48, which meant they would be ugly.  CIO was right!  I know that Toni, a cutie from my youth, is no longer the little girl I once knew...

MarkyMark

44 comments:

Anonymous said...

Good to hear from ya bro.
Got an invitation to the HS graduation class of '82's 30th reunion.
Needless to say,have no plans to attend.
Oddly, the older sister of one of my HS crushes happened to marry the weekender next door,they divorced a few years ago.
I figure as she naturally aged she became unhaaapy.

Anonymous said...

Interesting story. After I got my thirties I've been liking myself even more than ever before. When I was a teenager I didn't like to see myself on the mirror, I was too shy and embarrased of myself. I'm more beautiful now than when I was teen and in my twenties. I'm getting more secure now than ever. So female beauty as time goes by is relative. And I think Sophia Loren is still very beautiful, she's my idol and muse.

Brazilian Woman.

Anonymous said...

I have the opposite. Met a girl a couple of years ago who i had not known since school over 25 years ago.
She is still a very attractive woman, but having found out her lack of holding down a steady relationship, i have come to conclude the common factor must be her.
It might be a blessing that yours was ugly.

On a side note, i was talking with a female colleague, she is 30, quite a bit younger than me. I have already explained to her i am too bitter with women to date though the biology in me says i should.
She had just joined a dating agency and was about to go on a second date. Things going well then...i asked. "No" came the reply before she explained that he was short and chubby and she was only going out with him because he had a nice car. She dumped him not long after.
I can't help but view her in a different light. The sense of entitlement and bitterness belies what could have been a really nice woman. I just don't get where it comes from. She's relatively attractive but no pin-up.
Too fiery a temperament, such a shame.

Anonymous said...

Sounds more like the story ended up being like "Caroline No." Nice Beach Boys reference. Shame you got blown off by a wall-hitter. Same thing happened to me last year. That's it with 40-something charity cases. It doesn't pay to be nice.

-- Days of Broken Arrows

MarkyMark said...

BW,

There are rare exceptions like Sophia Loren; that said, she validates the rule that women get uglier as they get older.

MarkyMark

Jennifer said...

LOL People rarely get MORE beautiful as they get older, but Chris is a moron to say that women always get uglier; many age quite gracefully, but all humans male and female decrease with years. Not a single one of my female relatives, all over 45, are ugly now.

Johnycomelately said...

Did she ever marry or have kids mark?

MarkyMark said...

No, she never married, and she never had kids. She did tell me that she had a couple of chances to get married, but I didn't press her for why they didn't pan out. I felt as if I were rubbing salt in the wound when I asked her if about having curly hair when she was younger...

MarkyMark said...

Not a single one of my female relatives, all over 45, are ugly now.

Compared to what they looked like at 25, they are U-G-L-Y...

Anonymous said...

Marky Mark,


Anyway, that story is a real motivation for I taking care of myself even more. I don't want to get uglier as I age.


Brazilian Woman.

LS said...

My housemate has a photo of herself from high school. Redhead, bright smile, quite cute.
Today she is obese, missing teeth and covered in psoriasis blotches.
She went from a 5 or 6 to a 1 in 20 years.

djc said...

I have no desire to see anyone from my home town again. I left there at 18 when I joined the Army, and really never went back. It's a small northern NY town full of drunks and welfare recipients. I may go back once more just for nostalgia one of these days. Just to see the old streets and places I used to go as a child. One more time before I croak.

Greddy said...

MM, your posts always seem to pull in the harpies that love to tell you you're wrong using themselves as proof. Sure ladies. You're all the exception! Anyway, seen the recent pics of Erin Moran lately? She looks like something a trucker would scrape off the bottom of his truck after a thousand mile trip through the mid west.

Women are like flowers. Short burst of beauty then when the bloom is off, mostly just an ugly weed. They have no idea that they were given something specifically designed to draw men at exactly the time their bodies are at their peak for child birth and then... well, nature says then their biological value has ended. On the positive side, they still have societal value:working in toll booths or as lonely old haggard night shift cleaning ladies, or for pulling carts when the mule gets tired.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Ladies, please quit trying to argue women don't change with age. Just give the average Joe something to enjoy once their older. The average guy doesn't get the alpha cheerleader in HS, or the hollywood actress, etc., but he does get to sit back and watch the party end. Yes, their are actresses or whatever that stay hot for decades. They also can afford the products, injections, etc. that it usually takes to stay that way. So, please don't be delusional. Hot chix have the power when their young, we have the power if we become a success.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous,

I'm not argueing about that topic, I agree with you!However you must remember where you live... while I live in Brazil and while there are women who take care of themselves there are those who don't, that's the difference besides the genetics.
And I remember entering a blog by Barbarossaa "Western Women are good for sex only" (I think he's deleting his blog btw)and he posted a video about " Miss" Brazilian Grandma (of course they aren't misses anymore) and both him and I got very impressed with what we saw! I think the swinsuits they were wearing were too indiscreet, but proper fashion aside they are still very beautiful. This video can be found on Youtube!
This is proof that we can achieve agreement here: genetics and self care can be decisive whether a woman will be still beautiful as time goes by or not.
As I saw on Happier Abroad foruns american male testimonies I see social acceptance can be crucial too! When I was younger I got two problems: mental illness which is terrible for social interaction (imagine dates!) and males negative reinforcement. I can empathize with american men because I suffered like experiences with brazilian men. Years after years of male negative reinforcement stole my self steem and self confidence. Why would I take care of myself if I am always inadequate? Self care is useless and in vain!
But, as a fairy tale, my mental illness is gone and I am learning to like myself and so I'm taking care of myself not to please others, but only to please myself.
See, that testimony of mine has nothing to do with man hating, for many things I have experienced I can relate to American men experiences too. Empathy is something that isn't lacking in myself!

Brazilian Woman.

Anonymous said...

I have not always agreed 100% with Christopher from Oregon, but there is no way any rational person can ever call him a moron.

Anonymous age 70

Anonymous said...

"I got the house number and called her a few times when I thought about her in passing over the past two months. She never called me back. She never gave me her cell phone number-not that I wanted it. I was like, really?! Toni cannot and does not get much in the way of male attention these days, yet she blew me off like she was a 10 or something."

Let me fix that for you:

Toni cannot and does not get much in the way of male attention these days, yet she blew me off like she was not remotely interested in me or something.

Or:

Toni cannot and does not get much in the way of male attention these days, yet she blew me off like she had respect for herself or something.

In either case, you're conflating having any amount of self esteem with having an ego problem. She might be forty-eight with a face that looks like it was whacked with a shovel, but that doesn't automatically mean she's desperate enough to try to latch onto somebody who she is uninterested in. She might or might not consider herself a ten, but she at least considers herself worthy of happiness. If anything, you're the one with an ego problem if you think that her heart should have been aflutter just because you oh-so-kindly graced her with your visit and your phone calls.

MarkyMark said...

Anon1136,

Come off it! With what you said and the way you said it, you HAVE to be a chick.

I wasn't seeking a relationship, because I live too far away; now that my mom's old house sold, I won't be going back to the old neighborhood anymore. If I'm not going back to the old neighborhood, it's kind of hard to see Toni, isn't it?

No, all I was seeking was a light friendship, nothing more. I thought it would be nice to just hang out and talk once in a while. She thought I was seeking more, but I was not-typical chick and her ego.

Anonymous said...

Of course you weren't seeking a relationship, you'd already made that clear. But given her age (older people seem odder about making friends of the opposite sex than younger people, from my experience), she could have assumed you might have been and apparently didn't want to give you any false impressions. But you turned her lack of interest in talking to you into her having an overly high opinion of herself. She might, I don't know this woman. But being ugly doesn't equate being desperate for companionship either. You took her rejection of a perceived social advance from you into her thinking she still 'has it' when really, she might just not like you. There's nothing stuck up about choosing not to talk to somebody you don't like.

Greddy said...

Anonymous said...

"She could have assumed you might have been and apparently didn't want to give you any false impressions. But you turned her lack of interest in talking to you into her having an overly high opinion of herself.There's nothing stuck up about choosing not to talk to somebody you don't like."

But there is something incredibly bitchy to not be decent enough to treat a person nicely and be up front. She READ whatever she wanted into the situation without MM saying a word and responded TO THAT instead of to MM. This is SO very typical of women that men can spot it like a floodlight in the night.

Anonymous said...

She's 48, never married, no kids and living in the same place with her parents.She has some mental problem, you just didn't see it.

Ping Jockey said...

"She's 48, never married, no kids and living in the same place with her parents. She has some mental problem, you just didn't see it."

In spades!! Be grateful MM -- she actually did you a favor.

MarkyMark said...

PJ,

I don't hold living with her parents against her. One, I did so until 8 years ago. Two, it's common in Europe for adult children to live with their parents until they marry.

As for the mental problem, I never knew her well enough to see that. She seemed like a nice person when we were younger. Today, she's just different, and not in a good way.

Finally, I wasn't seeking a relationship with this woman. Why would I when I live 100 miles away, and won't be visiting the old neighborhood after Ma's house goes to its new owner next month? I just thought it would be nice for Toni and me to hang out, talk, and catch up on goings-on in the neighborhood. That's all I wanted, nothing more.

MarkyMark

Anonymous said...

Marky, take it from me. When you have a female spinster like her in the US there is always some underlying problem. Even females living alone almost always have a mental problem and you will rarely find a normal one. Open your eyes and just do some observation. The only somewhat normal females who live alone are older divorcees and even they nhave a lot of other females like themselves who they're constantly talking to on the phone. A lone female is almost always a bit crazy or has some problem and they should be avoided.And whether in Europe or the US a female living at home is just an old maid and there's a reason that she never left the nest. Men on the other hand can live alone and be perfectly normal since most men are loners by nature and are not afraid of being by themselves and can always find some way to occupy themselves. Lone females seem to get crazy on their own or were crazy to begin with which is why they're alone. It's just not the same with men. Really do some observation and take notes and you'll see I'm right.

Anonymous said...

Marky, men and women have nothing in common except sex and reproduction so why would you want a female friend? A dog makes a better friend. And this is coming from a man who has sex with a few hundred females over the past 40 years.Sure, I may have enjoyed talking to them but it was probably because I was having sex with them.As you get older and are not thinking about sex like a 20yo you find that females are just plain boring or even annoying to have just as a friend.I would bet that if someone invented a drug that knocked out the circuits in the brain that effect sexual attraction that you'd never even speak to a female again and in fact may find them physically grotesque. It's really only that sex drive you have when young that even makes contact with females desireable. Think about it.If it was only to be friends then men would have old ladies as friends.But they don't because what you think is only friends always has some sexual element underlying it.

Anonymous said...

I don't hold living with her parents against her. One, I did so until 8 years ago

MNarky, didn't you say you were in the Navy? You were already out and just came back to live which is not the same thing as this woman who had never left or changed for 30 years.

MarkyMark said...

Anon0245,

I don't know if Toni never moved out or came back to her family like I did.

MarkyMark

MarkyMark said...

Anon0242,

I agree; genuine friendships with women are rare.

Perhaps I should have cleared up something though: I was simply looking to hang out with Toni when I was taking care of estate business down there. Now that that is pretty much finished, so is anything with Toni. IOW, I was just looking for a temporary acquaintanceship. Realistically, I could not and did not expect anything more.

I won't lie: a part of me was hoping that Toni was, er, 'well preserved'. Another part of me wanted to see if we could have had what we didn't 30+ years ago. After all, she'd been a nice person (as far as I knew anyway) back in the day. That, and she had been a known quantity; it wasn't like meeting a total stranger-provided she hadn't changed as a person over the years. Unfortunately, she HAD changed; she was no longer the friendly, outgoing, trusting person I remembered.

That said, I know that the vast majority of women over 40 don't look like they did when they were 15-20; they're not even close! Even so, I wasn't expecting the horrifying sight that greeted my eyes when I saw Toni for the first time in over 30 years. Intellectually, I knew that Toni wasn't the little gal I once knew, but that's how I REMEMBERED her; that's how I'd KNOWN her.

MarkyMark

Anonymous said...

Marky, I know what you meant.

"Unfortunately, she HAD changed; she was no longer the friendly, outgoing, trusting person I remembered."

When females are young and in their prome mating and fertile stage they are all mostly like this but as they age they lose this, some more than others but they all still lose it.And remember that she knew that your mother has just died and you would think she'd behave in a more compassionate way towards you thinking you might be depressed or a bit lonely and not in some cold manner. But that's the problem with a lot of females, they only care about themselves and how they feelor when a man can be of some use to them esp. in their prime mating years. As I said above, men and women really have nothing in common except for reproduction. When females are in their prime breeding period they are at their best physically and personality wise because they have to appeal to the male. They say men improve with age and it's probably true but even here it's because men are always in their prime breeding period except for very old age. There's a reason for everything in Nature and it mostly revolves around reproduction. Plenty of men in their 50's and 60's still have kids and they make better fathers than when they were young and a bit stupid and inexperienced in life but at that age females have completely lost the patience to rear a child and have lost the physical ability to do it too. At least that is my observation.

Anonymous said...

I won't lie: a part of me was hoping that Toni was, er, 'well preserved'

It's never going to happen. Even females who were really good looking when young and inherited the right genes will go downhill starting at 40 which is the average age of menopause. When you start to lose 90% of your estrogen within a relatively short period it will effect your femininity and looks and by the late 40's you're finished.Don't believe those magazine articles about "hot" women in their 60's and 60's (!) If you ever saw then naked and without makeup, well, you wouldn't exactly get a hardon lol That's the opposite of young girls who ususally ruin their looks with makeup or dying their hair etc and make themselves look worse. Lindsay Lohan with her natural red hair and no makeup looks like a cute sweet girl. And at 115lbs with young firm naturally big boobs that doesn't hurt either :o)

Lily said...

Maybe she sensed that at your meeting after all those years - that you think she's ugly. Sometimes it's hard to hide and not project what one is thinking. Maybe she's just not interested in men anymore. I wonder how you had changed in her eyes too.

Throwing my 2 cents into the discussion here, in response to women getting ugly - I think beauty (or perceived beauty) has a lot to do with personality and how one comports oneself. I don't mean to imply the "it's what's on the inside that counts" argument for cases when someone is clearly severely overweight, etc. Just that I have known females in my life (I'm female) who I thought were incredibly beautiful, when just to look at them they would be "average." But their personality, etc, made them beautiful. Jackie O is a good example. Dissecting her actual features, she was not stunning, but her grace and class made her so. Women who are loud and obnoxious immediately make themselves less attractive. As are women who are bitter, cynical, perpetual victims, complainers, etc. More and more women are "ugly" by the time they are in the first year of college these days. Just my opinion.

Lily said...

One other thing. Is "Toni" a smoker?

MarkyMark said...

Throwing my 2 cents into the discussion here, in response to women getting ugly - I think beauty (or perceived beauty) has a lot to do with personality and how one comports oneself. I don't mean to imply the "it's what's on the inside that counts" argument for cases when someone is clearly severely overweight, etc. Just that I have known females in my life (I'm female) who I thought were incredibly beautiful, when just to look at them they would be "average." But their personality, etc, made them beautiful. Jackie O is a good example. Dissecting her actual features, she was not stunning, but her grace and class made her so. Women who are loud and obnoxious immediately make themselves less attractive. As are women who are bitter, cynical, perpetual victims, complainers, etc. More and more women are "ugly" by the time they are in the first year of college these days. Just my opinion.

I totally get what you're saying here. A good heart and spirit can make a woman 'look better' in my eyes, even if she isn't all that physically.

As for Toni being a smoker, I don't think so; she wasn't when I knew her as kids. Her voice was more coarse than it was gravelly; it didn't have that innocent sound to it that she'd had when she was younger.

Richard Cranium said...

Interesting that you posted about this MM I had a similar experience with a female relative a while ago.

I have a female cousin that is a week older than me (we're in our mid 40's now) and had lost touch for a number of years and we reconnected through Facebook about a year and a half ago.

It was good to reconnect but what got me is how much older she looked. She's never left the small town we are from and just looks like a older lady that has Tupperware parties and knits matching Christmas sweaters and helps with the scouts bake sale.

By comparison outside of my hair going I easily pass for my early 30's and people are quite surprised when they find out my true age. Hell I still get carded buying beer sometimes!

I think a lot of it has to do with your mindset. I still think and act like I did in my 20's and I don't ever want to "grow up" or "settle down" and I truly believe that it helps keep me young. Plus having lived in several different big cities and not just stuck in that small town mentality probably didn't hurt.

There are a few that "get it" though. My former hairdresser in LA is probably the hottest 51 year old grandma you'll ever see easily outclassing girls half her age. She's proud of her appearance and works hard to keep it up as opposed to just getting that mom haircut and letting her figure go to shit and telling her husband tough shit and deal with it like so many women do.

Mrs. Anna T said...

First off, it's good to hear from you... good to know you're settling back into normal life.

I went to my high school reunion not long ago. Granted... I'm 27, not 48, but still it was startling to see how some people have changed... some for better, some for worse. As for looks, when you like someone they begin to "grow on you" - I love this expression! Unless the person is downright ugly, if they have a good heart they may be loved, and seen as more attractive than they technically are. On the other hand even someone very handsome loses their luster if their behavior is repulsive.

Anonymous said...

You played into her hand with this - you called that cow when she was 48 years old. I can easily imagine the little glow she got, the joy of not returning a call after so many years of not getting ANY calls whatsoever. Like it or not you let her disqualify you. Even if you walked past her house with a solid 22 year old 9.5 all you would see is pity in her eyes for the other girl - "doesn't she know *I* rejected *HIM*" Girls aren't grateful for your attention unless they think you are clearly above them. Had you walked over the first time with a super model on your arm yes, she'd be spamming your phone endlessly because that is how their brains are wired even unto death. Nuff said.

Anonymous said...

Hear, Ye! Hear, Ye! Sir Marky speaks the truth!

Have to say that your posting resonates with the heartstrings of my memories. After meeting a female friend of the family who I had not seen in merely ten years, I was appalled at the changes in her life--and not for the better.

Remnants from (what I knew of) her youth were barely visible. Physically, she let herself go by gaining weight, developing wrinkles ahead of her time, and indulging in noxious, self-destroying behaviors. She went through some hard times of her own making, and it showed.

However, the most shocking change was her personality, character, and lifestyle, not her physical deterioration. Being the typical American Female, she grossly indulged in multi-male (possibly females too) promiscuity, adopted potty-mouth language at every opportunity, went to college (oh, no!), ran around with a dubious crowd (whose negative behavior she emulated and never dropped), dated a succession of bad boys (she still blames men for her problems), and, nearing thirty, showed signs of developing baby rabies. Her words were self-contradicting, and I could no longer tell if she was telling the truth or fibbing like Satan (or both). Most noticeably, she did not appear to be happy with her life.

And to top it off, when I knew her in her teenage years, she was the proverbial Nice Girl. Christian girl. Read the Bible. She and her family went to church on Sundays, and she could recite the holy writ like nobody's business, and she (seemingly) had a caring heart. Mother Teresa would have been proud.

This is why her attitude reversal was so surprising. Maybe she was like this all along and adulthood freed her to reveal what was inside of her heart without fear of parental repercussions.

Either way, it doesn't matter. I must keep my distance from her for my own personal safety and so I can stay happy without exposing myself to negative influences. (Yes, you read right. American Females have become so repulsive in the USSA that life is happier without their association.)

Oh, she eventually married a Bad Boy (tattoos, criminal history, drug problems--the works) and reproduced. Now, she is instilling her beliefs into her offspring.


There is an old Latin saying that goes, "Time discloses the truth." How true that is.

Anonymous said...

To your credit, you gave her a call and cared enough about your old memories to stop by. But seriously, I think beauty or ugliness is all a matter of personal connection with someone and that's where the beauty comes from. When I went back to my high school reunion with all of us in our 40s some of the boys and girls who were nothing to look at in high school turned into really beautiful people. And some of those who were very good looking and popular took a turn for the WORSE! People go through many pains and sorrows which do not touch them in their younger years. My fiance and I met late in life. We probably would have looked alot better back when, but because we love each other, we are very attracted to each other.

I would not spend my time thinking that this woman did not call you back because she thinks she's hot. You only described appearances. You have no idea what kind of pains or sorrows she has been through. And you are perhaps not that objective about what your own personal pains and sorrows have done to you.

Anonymous said...

PS My condolences for the loss of your mother - even if you sometimes have said you hated her.

MarkyMark said...

Anon1633,

I beg your pardon, but WHEN, pray tell me, did I ever say on here that I hated my mother?! Where did I say that? Can you provide a specific example of this? No, you cannot...

MarkyMark

Anonymous said...

Yes, indeed, I've met up with a number of women during the last years I once knew when I was a young whipper-snapper.

Yee Gods!

What time, nature and gravity do to a woman shouldn't even be legal. It's horrifying.

This isn't something new, although each generation of men somehow seems to lose sight of the fact that women do NOT AGE GRACEFULLY!

No, there are no exceptions, and if there is one, you'd better be worth more than a few million in order to get her.

Seen any pictures of Melinda Gates lately?

Eeeeew!

All the King's horses and all that. All that money, and dear God, what a dog.

The human female only has a short service life, as the book says. That brief illusion of beauty is ALL she has to offer. After that, you get to slowly, or not so slowly, watch her turn into a smelly bag of bones.

Ick.

Christopher in Oregon

MarkyMark said...

Chris,

What's up, ole buddy?! I got a new (to me, anyway) 2004 Helix. I liked my 1993, but it died. I'll e-mail you about that.

But yeah, seeing Toni after all these years WAS horrific-ouch! I can't believe that the cute, perky gal I knew as a shy teenager morphed into THAT. I was like whoa! Is that you-really?

MarkyMark

Anonymous said...

My bad, I guess it wasn't really hate, but strong negative feelings that you seemed to relate to all women. It's what I would call hate.

Anonymous said...

So MarkyMark, do you still look like you did 30 years ago? You expect women not to age but it's okay if men do?

You call Toni a spinster? Now, I haven't read all of your blog so I don't know if you've ever been married? Have you? I can't imagine that any woman with any brains would marry the likes of you. Your generalizations of women are appalling. What does it say about a man of your age who has never been married? What was his problem? Women turn you down and now you have a hate stick shoved so far up your ass it's pathetic.