I was just reading some Happy Bachelors' posts with my breakfast, and I saw this gem posted by Outcastsuperstar. It's his post, Suckers & $uckers. Be warned that some profanity follows! If that offends you, then don't go any farther. Thank you.
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I did this piece back in 2007
After reading the nomarriage ebook, the author talks about two groups of men: fuckers and suckers.
Keep in mind western women love excitement and hate boredom. When they are in their teens and early 20's, they don't want stability that suckers have to offer because that is boring.
Keep in mind that women don't think for themselves but decisions on who they date or sleep with is usually made by the council not by the woman herself. This council is usually made up of her mother, sister, and friends etc. If dating a nice guy is not considered to be fun and popular by the "council" he is going to get snubbed.
There is another group of guys called fuckers. Women love to have sex with these guys during their prime years. Although they offer no stability to these women, however women will still sleep with them. The reason why women will is because they are unpredictable and therefore they are deemed as very exciting.
Once these women get to there late 20's - early 30's they will fraudently sell their looks to suckers who make a good income in order to get married. In other words they will put on a pony show for them until they get the ring. After a few years of marriage, these women are going to get bored and everything is the suckers fault. They will look for affairs and cash out on their suckers knowing that they will get the house, child support (if they have children), and alimony. All she has to do is file a false abuse charge (no proof necessary) to make all this happen. Even as a bonus, the sucker even gets to pay for her attorney fees.
Also, remember guys a women's fertility starts to decline at age 27 not in her 30's and 40's. If any of you want to start a family I highly recommend to make sure that the woman you are going to start a family with is no older than 25.
Despite there not being any legal justice in this country, Mother Nature has a justice of her own.
Those suckers who once ached for these women will lose interest in them once they get to be in their mid to late 20's. The last thing they are going to find attractive are used up women in their late 20's-30's. In fact these women must be avoided at all cost. They got a disease called baby rabies. They are going to do everything possible to get pregnant and trap you into a long term relationship where they can get provided for.
However, once those "suckers" get financially stable they will get to travel to foreign countries and enjoy beautiful women. Also, while in the United States, they will have developed fun hobbies to do when they are not working. In fact these "suckers" will not have to deal with the stress of fear of divorce, a nagging whore, false abuse and rape chargers, get to keep their sanity and money, won't have to worry about raising kid that aren't theirs etc.
However, the women who neglected the “suckers” in favor of the “fuckers” during their prime years are going to have to face justice. It's not legal justice but Mother Nature justice. Once they get to their late 20's for every year a man ages, they will be aging by two years. They will wrinkle and get ugly very fast. Investing thousands of dollars in makeup in order to form a bond with a “sucker” is not going to get the job done because they failed to form a bond with a "sucker" during their prime years. Their biological clocks will be ticking and they will get very desperate. They are going to want to be talking care off, like living off a “sucker” so they won't have to work. Disgusted by their behavior, the "suckers" will not want anything to do with them and will rebuke them. They are going to have to work long hours for the rest of their life because they could not find a "sucker" to take care of them. They will whine and complain that the "suckers" will not commit despite them snubbing them in favor of the "fuckers" during their prime years. They will rot all alone with no one to take care of them, many of them will not get to have children, and will be living very miserable lives until death all because they thought it was cute to let the "suckers" rot all alone while they go squander their prime years to the "fuckers" That my friends is what I call justice!
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That's what I call justice too. Don't be a sucker, Fellas! Until next time...
MarkyMark
26 comments:
I'm 33 and suddenly most of the girls I grew up with have facebook profile pics that don't show their bodies. Party over, ladies?
^ The older a woman is when she is with the man she wants to marry, the less she respects him.
Because if she had wanted to be with him ealier (barring the Stargate episode: The Torment of Tantalus), it would not normally be difficult if both wanted to treat each other well.
I personally set the bar even lower: I'm not interested in women past 18, as they more than likely have been pumped and dumped and see me as a meal ticket or janitor to clean up their mess.
And also remember: it's better to be alone than with a nagging harpy who is that way because she's "settling" for you and the only thing that makes her situation bearable is how much money she can squeeze out of you.
EVERY man unlucky with modern women his age, needs to read the "Suckers and Fuckers" piece.
And rebuke those same women when they come sniffing around for the scent of newly minted green.
As I like to say: "Karma, dudettes, karma!"
They are going to have to work long hours for the rest of their life because they could not find a "sucker" to take care of them.
I have a female acquaintance who was quite the party girl when she was in her 20s. She was used to the "finer things in life." She was "supported in the manner to which she was accustomed" in condos and with trendy automobiles paid for by a succession of wealthy male suitors.
Then she hit 30-ish, had a kid out of wedlock, and her looks went south along with much of her anatomy. Now she lives in a dumpy apartment and is scrambling to find a job. Her career options seem to be within the range of receptionist temp and dancing in a local bikini bar.
"Karma, dudette, karma!"
To P Ray
While I think much of what is in this piece is quite a bit unfair (remember, plenty of men are in no rush to commit until they hit their 30s), your particular commits are alarming, to say the least. You wouldn't date a women past the age of 18? I suppose it doesn't occur to you that until 18, they are GIRLS, they are children! You are taking advantage of vulnerable youths who aren't even mentally fully developed! This is the definition of a sexual predator. This isn't shaming language, this is fact, especially since it also happens to boys of this age group, and I know you wouldn't want that.
To everyone else,
Gentlemen, please realise that your hatred and bigotry of women is a knee jerk reaction of the over zealous prostrations of certain factions of feminism, exactly like these aforementioned forms of feminism. I think it would be fairer to judge someone, not on what resides between their legs, but what is between their ears. Character knows no sex or gender.
I think it would be fairer to judge someone, not on what resides between their legs, but what is between their ears. Character knows no sex or gender.
Anon,
I have two problems with what you said; there are two things off the top of my head that I wish to say in response. One, stereotypes are CHEAP INFORMATION. Two, the women who aren't like that do precious little to distinguish themselves from those that ARE like that...
MarkyMark
Anonymous 19:41 --
"I think it would be fairer to judge someone, not on what resides between their legs, but what is between their ears. Character knows no sex or gender."
For the hundredth time: it doesn't matter if 'Not All Women Are Like That' -- TOO MANY ARE, and the ones who aren't DO NOT do ANYTHING to show that they are not. Besides, they can easily lie, act like they are not 'like that', and then later become 'Like That' at the drop of a hat, and you are SCREWED. (And, as any man who has been through any kind of failed relationship with a modern woman can attest, women are EXCELLENT and unrepentant liars).
It's been said before that trying to find a 'Good Woman' is like looking for a Tootsie Roll in a septic tank full of turds (which [due to STDs] has become further contaminated with hazardous waste).
Would YOU be so foolish as to try to find a piece of straw in a field of stacks of poisoned needles?
But MarkyMark and Take The Red Pill, isn't this ENTIRE blog founded on the generalisation that women from the Western world (especially Americans) are nothing more than whores? Isn't that "cheap information"? The fact is, we all see things differently. Also, how would a woman distinguish herself as "different"? Does she have to wear a sign, or a label? If anything these are the women who likely are the most quiet. Not to mention, don't a lot of the men on this blog seem to fall into the "all men are dogs" stereotype, and quite willingly?
I have grown up in a culture where men are dominant and how often that leads to infidelity, spousal abuse, child abuse, neglect, and generally acting like scum. But I do not hate men. Even though I myself experienced this from my own father, now as an adult I can understand why he was the way he was and it has nothing to do with being a man, he was just acting on the lessons he learned from his own childhood. Funny thing too, I'm the one person who would and has stayed with him and listened to his problems for hours.
I even have a wonderful boyfriend, and yes I actually cook for him everyday and no he isn't some "rich prick" but he is my best friend.
If you want proof that there are still good women, here it is, if you haven't figured out I'm female yet. Also, I am only 23, so I still haven't even reached "my prime".
I take with me some important lessons that both of my parents gave me: be with people who are kind to you, and love you as you are. Be yourself, and find your people. I have, and I could care less what gender or sex they are. I would be nice if you guys tried to do the same.
If you are what passes for a good woman these days, (nagging/blame), then forget it. And it was painfully obvious you are a woman.
Not nagging or blaming, just trying to put a little perspective into the debate, I thought that was the point of it.
Marky, you and your sycophants can enjoy your little "movement" and trust me, none of you pass for real men, you would be trying to get better, not become even more vindictive and prone to name calling as the "feminazis" you all claim to despise. Good night boys (for that is what you all truly are)!
At Anonymous (05 February, 2012 21:55)
You don't need to post a long diatribe of your life.
Let me summarise it for the rest of the guys out there: "I'm a woman, and not all of us are like that."
The MGTOW response is this: "We don't care anymore. You have fallen upon deaf ears. Please pass that simple message to all your female friends. Regards."
...And why is it that women always insist on telling men what to do, how to feel, etc? Do they have a penis? Do they experience what its like?
At Anonymous (06 February, 2012 20:14)
One minute you throw up the "Not all women are like that" stance in order to portray yourself as some sort of "good girls still exist". Then the next minute you call us names? ie: sycophants
You've just proven yourself that all women are like that!
Women depend on men. When men do not cooperate with women via the Social Contract, they attempt to shame men with labels into doing what they want. From direct attacks of our manhood to "Man Up!" or "Do the right thing!"
...It turns out to be a standard female characteristic. (It doesn't matter the country.)
Unfortunately for you, it doesn't work anymore. We aren't listening or complying!
Times have changed, and so have we. We are throwing out whats left of the old social contract in the bin. We are now concerned with our own lives, as society and media has driven us into that corner.
Will this kill the Western population numbers? Absolutely! Just look at Japan's Herbivore Men...But hey, its all good! Because more and more Western women can adopt an African kid they feel sorry for to off-set the decline!
Anon who said NAWALT,
As I said in my Costa Concordia post, women broke the social contract! Once they did that; once women said that they will no longer hold up THEIR END of said social contract; they released US MEN from it too...
MarkyMark
You know, I suppose I was being a bit mean, so I apologize. And I was not suggesting you marry or even NAWALT. I just meant that hate just propagates more hate, might as well try to stop it where you can, with yourself. And by finding your people, I meant friends. I think it's possible to assert your rights without becoming angry or militant. That's one thing that feminism sometimes gets wrong, and this is why it's useless as a movement now. "Equalism" (which includes more sexes and genders than just men or women) makes a lot more sense. Enjoy being alone, I know being solitary is quite great.
04 February, 2012 19:41
"a bit unfair (remember, plenty of men are in no rush to commit until they hit their 30s), your particular commits are alarming, to say the least. You wouldn't date a women past the age of 18? I suppose it doesn't occur to you that until 18, they are GIRLS, they are children! You are taking advantage of vulnerable youths who aren't even mentally fully developed! This is the definition of a sexual predator."
Nice shaming language there.
Since girls "mature faster than men" ...
and since that is a legal age ...
what do you have against my preferences (again, which are legal)?
Unless you're trying to find a man to mooch off of, when you're done riding the cock carousel?
If "Character knows no sex or gender" AND the person is of legal age ...
what's your problem?
Unless you're scared you won't have a man to lean on in your later years.
REMEMBER: If the kitten didn't want ME, I DON'T WANT THE CAT.
Older women deserve the relationship apocalypse that is coming: they had no use for the decent men when they were younger.
So the decent men, have no use for them either.
Anonymous 04 February, 2012 19:41
"This isn't shaming language, this is fact, especially since it also happens to boys of this age group"
Conflation is a very lame-ass debating technique.
I said date someone of 18, which is the LEGAL age.
You must be one of the women who subscribe to the 2 real motivations behind feminism:
1. To give women unlimited sexual license so they can cockhop without penalty and make themselves to be the arbiters of what is an “acceptable” relationship so that
2. Older men will find it impossible to be with younger women, as the cockhoppers of step (1) need a cohort of sex-starved men to be their slaves.
Think about that for awhile before you reply.
Just as women have the right to throw away their lives in meaningless relationships for the sake of pursuing their "vagina tingles",
men have the right not to deal with such women, and instead choose to build a relationship with someone who he actually has a chance of making something that lasts.
Would you prefer a world of divorced people, or married ones?
Because I'm really sure that men getting with women who essentially ... "whored themselves out to other men, until they weren't wanted, then go looking for decent men" (like a piranha woman) ... is going to create a world filled with divorce.
Anonymous 04 February, 2012 19:41
"(remember, plenty of men are in no rush to commit until they hit their 30s)"
Maybe they're in no rush to commit, because there are no women around them worth committing to.
Also, define "commit".
If it means "man works, woman stays at home, while busting his chops that he never earns enough and how a real man would earn so much more"
Men who have grown wise to the ways of the world, know that such "commitment" is to agree to be a slave for life (or at least until divorce, then alimony payments for life).
No thanks to that kind of "commit".
DO. NOT. WANT.
Umm, I suppose the fact that I stated I was 23, slipped your minds, and I am part of the youthful crowd. Actually I get mistaken for a 15 year old often. Also, I don't like promiscuity from men or women, it is gross to me. And who said anything about sleeping around or limiting older men? My boyfriend is 10 years older than me, and he's the only person I've ever dated (or done anything with). We want to stay together and get married (it's true love). I am going to university to become a doctor (yes a science degree). I will be the "primary bread winner" later on, and that's cool with me, I love studying and research. My love is starting a new career, the one his parents talked him out of when he was young, and I am so happy for him and proud of him. I love him with all my heart and I just want him to be happy. I love and respect him because he does the same for me. All I ever ask from him is to be a nice to me, and he is. (Sorry about gushing but I really do feel this way about him.)
P Ray I believe you said "I'm not interested in women past 18," which leads me to believe that you date younger than that age, which would mean you date children. I am not opposed to you dating younger women, I was worried that children were being taken advantage of, and I will not sit by and watch child abuse. I would say this as well to older women who hound younger boys. And for the record, saying I ride "the cock carousel", isn't THAT shaming language, aren't you calling me a slut? Excuse me for existing!
"My boyfriend is 10 years older than me, and he's the only person I've ever dated (or done anything with)."
So other men who were previously ignored by women, are not allowed the same idea that they should only be with women who have had no previous partner?
I hope your boyfriend is not a player, and that you demand of him the same standard that you present to him.
"P Ray I believe you said "I'm not interested in women past 18," which leads me to believe that you date younger than that age, which would mean you date children. I am not opposed to you dating younger women, I was worried that children were being taken advantage of, and I will not sit by and watch child abuse. I would say this as well to older women who hound younger boys. And for the record, saying I ride "the cock carousel", isn't THAT shaming language, aren't you calling me a slut? Excuse me for existing!"
"which leads me to believe that you date younger than that age, which would mean you date children."
You are almost always dating a child when you date a woman ... most have no concept of equality.
And since ANY woman can hurl a false rape accusation against ANY man, they are well-protected indeed.
Remember: your beliefs ... are not facts.
I believe you're twisting the argument.
If your definition of a date is being wined and dined and sex after, I have to call you a slut.
"I was worried that children were being taken advantage of, and I will not sit by and watch child abuse."
Again, your beliefs are not facts.
In the interests of the children, they must also be protected against their parents having a bad relationship with each other if they had slutted around in their past.
That's why the solution is "no rings for sluts".
You should really be telling the players(and the women who want them) to clean up their act,
unless of course you realise that the drama you create when you confront a player in public ... makes him more attractive to other women.
So you kick downwards and go for the nice guys, who are merely looking to deal with girls who have not ridden the cock carousel.
Typical.
P Ray, I was saying that I am glad you don't go for underage girls. And saying all women are akin to children, well I would have to say that no, we aren't. Some people (of all sexes and genders) are extremely immature, so please refrain from assuming it's only one group.
As for my boyfriend, I do demand the same devotion from him that I give him. Not by nagging, but by not tolerating indifference. Trust me, I have brought down many a player with a resounding "No." My boyfriend on the other hand, always speaks to me with respect and a genuine interest in what I have to say. Also, he is sweet to me, and I like that. Case in point, he will always hug me when I feel down, and always plays music when I am happy. He finds pictures online that he knows I'll like and leaves them on my desktop. He supports me in my quest of becoming a doctor. He wants this enough that even if I have to spend less time with him, he wants me to study, go to every class, and will even surrender the computer so that I can work on my assignments. He does little things for me everyday.
The problem I have is the assumtion that a woman who has slept around is a "slut". What about a man who has done the same? Why not attack him as well? Or are you of the belief that men who sleep around are "studs"? I agree hook-up culture has gotten totally out of hand, but it's not just women who are to blame. My bf had a moment like this, and while I agree it isn't nice, it does do one thing: he can truly appreciate me as being unique, as being the one. He does not treat me like some "chick", he treats me like me, the individual, the person. We love each other even down to the flaws. Don't assume that a woman who has made mistakes is unworthy, the only ones that are haven't learned from them.
Don't assume that a woman who has made mistakes is unworthy, the only ones that are haven't learned from them.
That's just it; the vast majority of women do NOT learn from their mistakes! Why is it that women will chase jerk after jerk, doing so year after year? No, rather than take a look in the mirror, these women will blame men for the failures in their love lives. They'll place blame on everyone other than where it belongs-with themselves.
I haven't celebrated the players: and I do point out that the majority of women CHOOSE such men.
If I blame them, it's only fair that I blame the women who choose to be with them too.
Because a player can finally only satisfy 1 woman,
but all the women who chose a player first are going to claim being "tricked".
However, there is a little bit within religious books, that says
"A man who protects his fellow man from women who are of poor character, is doing a service to mankind".
I can hardly argue against that.
The player who diverts the attention of a "piranha woman", is saving a lot of good men from her attentions.
" I agree hook-up culture has gotten totally out of hand, but it's not just women who are to blame. My bf had a moment like this, and while I agree it isn't nice, it does do one thing: he can truly appreciate me as being unique, as being the one."
How does it feel to want a player? He is the man you want, after all - the one you chose.
And you'll forgive him ... because he's what you want. :)
I suppose I didn't make myself clear, my bf didn't commit 12 years ago, because he was around women who wouldn't themselves, and you're right, he found no one worth it. He had been content both as a bachelor and as a loner for a long time when we met. His past could make him really appreciate me, as I am. He has been devoted to me since day one, and that was hard for the first year and a half, as we were an ocean apart. But he stil would stay up, sometimes till dawn, to talk to me every day. This is how I knew he was good, and was the one. He was not scared off when I told him about my main issue, I am an aspie, and it does still impact my life a lot. It can also be stressful for the people around me, at times. He loves even that, and likes the person I am.
You know something though? You are right that a checkered past isn't nice in a partner. It does make you weary and insecure. So I concede, a younger woman probably is the better choice. But not all women who are "older" are necessarily former party girls. I suppose I'm trying to say that even if a woman has made mistakes in the past, if she has serious "flaws" give her a chance and judge her as an individual, and don't just sweep this whole group under the rug.
I would also like to say, this debate has been really enlightening and perpective changing, so thank you.
Standard script for a fem-troll.
"This is not shaming language,but you're not real men, you're boys who will never get laid."
NAWALT
When 18 year old woman are praised, she implies pedophila,and is "worried."
(concern trolling)
The only thing she missed is "I,m afraid,you haters"
Well she did say haters.
I guess all she missed is
"you all have small dicks"
Thanks for playing, next.
How very unoriginal.
This is why their gonna lose boys,their out of ways to deflect the truth.
Since she hates dominant men because "they are abusers"
I,m sure her mangina will lose all that money he's paying for her pretend doctors degree when she
spends all his money and screws every thug she can find behind his back.
(with no remorse,as indicated)
Another entitlement princess.
Yawn
Wow, you just proved my point that some of you really are ridiculously ignorant. To the last comment, first off, your grammer is TERRIBLE! I am insulted just by the fact that you would call me useless, when you yourself cannot comprehend basic language skills that are taught in elementary school.
Second, my BF wasn't a virgin when we met, I just said he was a loner, as in he BECAME one. Say what you want about me, but attack him, and I WILL DESTROY YOU! Thank you for completely disregarding that I said I am an aspie: as in I AM AUTISTIC, so trust me, even the most socially inept young man will usually have greater social prowess than myself.
Third, are you saying that individual targeting adolescents for easy sex, and taking advantage of them isn't a real problem? As I recall, after P Ray clarified that he meant ONLY 18 years old, that was OK. You know why I don't like people who target teenagers for sex? Because I have known too many people tricked, abused and raped by sick bastards who thought it was OK to do so, including my own father.
Finally, my BF is my equal, not a push over. And as I stated before (and as anyone reading these posts can see), obviously I am well educated, my quest for my degrees are real. (And clearly, you barely passed high school.) And just to make it expressly clear, my BF is not spending a cent on my education, this is my responsibility.
And as for the comment: "their going to lose"' this isn't a war, if you are so battle hungry, go join the army. Oh and the implication that I'll go off to screw thugs, wow...slut shaming, how original. It's no wonder you are so angry, you are a hateful little prick!
OH God, STFU
Do not make the mistake of considering anything she just yammered as communications. Who in their right mind would associate with this hateful psychotic. Yes MOST women are like this, going my own way & taking the kids (because they asked to be saved from her)
If a girl is 18 then she is a child, I call BS.
If this BS is true then our country needs to change the legal age of an adult from 18 to something else.
Its OK for a Cougar to date a young man and even "cute" to have a fling with young man yet and older man dating a young women is evil and perverse.
This is just more anti-male man-bashing BS...
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